{"id":14233,"date":"2024-06-28T06:30:22","date_gmt":"2024-06-28T06:30:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/?p=14233"},"modified":"2024-06-25T09:52:17","modified_gmt":"2024-06-25T09:52:17","slug":"jonathan-chatwin-deng-xiaoping-southern-tour","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/jonathan-chatwin-deng-xiaoping-southern-tour\/","title":{"rendered":"Author Jonathan Chatwin on Deng Xiaoping&#8217;s legendary Southern Tour"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>On a freezing January afternoon in 1992, Deng Xiaoping, China\u2019s former paramount leader and now a revered elder statesman, set off on a month-long trip around China\u2019s south in defence of the reforms he had set in motion to open up China\u2019s economy and transform the country into the political and economic powerhouse we know today.<\/p>\n<p>In <em>The Southern Tour: Deng Xiaoping and the Fight for China\u2019s Future<\/em> (Bloomsbury Asian Arguments, 2024), Jonathan Chatwin travels 3,000 miles in the footsteps of Deng\u2019s legendary \u201csouthern tour\u201d, pursuing the stories of his journey and examining its legacies in the country today. Jonathan Chatwin is an independent writer whose last book, <em>Long Peace Street<\/em> (Manchester University Press, 2019), retraced the history and development of Beijing\u2019s central west-east access Chang\u2019an Jie. Paul French caught up with Chatwin to talk Deng, legacy and how it\u2019s all remembered in today\u2019s China.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/lp-cta-gateway\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-7246 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-gateway.png\" alt=\"launchpad gateway\" width=\"4680\" height=\"786\" srcset=\"https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-gateway.png 4680w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-gateway-300x50.png 300w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-gateway-1024x172.png 1024w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-gateway-768x129.png 768w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-gateway-1536x258.png 1536w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-gateway-2048x344.png 2048w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-gateway-1920x322.png 1920w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-gateway-1170x197.png 1170w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-gateway-585x98.png 585w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 4680px) 100vw, 4680px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h4>Can you give us a quick explainer on the southern tour and why Deng saw it as so essential?<\/h4>\n<p>In 1988, there was an inflation crisis which led to the so-called \u2018conservatives\u2019 within the Chinese Communist Party leadership \u2013 named after their desire to \u2018conserve\u2019 a Soviet-style planned economy \u2013 imposing stricter controls on economic growth, slowing the freewheeling of the economy over the previous few years. This \u2018rectification\u2019 process continued after the Tiananmen protests, which seemed to those conservatives to confirm that economic liberalisation had been too much, too fast. Deng retired officially in November of 1989 but was determined that China shouldn\u2019t slow down its economic liberalisation \u2013 to him, the protests of June proved the need to continue making people\u2019s lives better in order to secure the authority of the party. He tried to reignite the economy in 1990 and 1991 but didn\u2019t manage to persuade the new leadership, so in January 1992, nine months before the all-important 14th Party Congress, he set off to two Special Economic Zones, Shenzhen and Zhuhai, as well as Shanghai, to make his case and try to pivot China back towards more ambitious reform and opening.<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear:both; margin-top:2em; margin-bottom:2em;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/how-understanding-chinese-history-can-help-your-business-in-china\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"dofollow\" class=\"uddd675e116d983bde5b021887ac97549\"><style> .uddd675e116d983bde5b021887ac97549 { padding:0px; margin: 0; padding-top:1em!important; padding-bottom:1em!important; width:100%; display: block; font-weight:bold; background-color:#eaeaea; border:0!important; border-left:4px solid #E74C3C!important; box-shadow: 0 1px 2px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.17); -moz-box-shadow: 0 1px 2px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.17); -o-box-shadow: 0 1px 2px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.17); -webkit-box-shadow: 0 1px 2px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.17); text-decoration:none; } .uddd675e116d983bde5b021887ac97549:active, .uddd675e116d983bde5b021887ac97549:hover { opacity: 1; transition: opacity 250ms; webkit-transition: opacity 250ms; text-decoration:none; } .uddd675e116d983bde5b021887ac97549 { transition: background-color 250ms; webkit-transition: background-color 250ms; opacity: 1; transition: opacity 250ms; webkit-transition: opacity 250ms; } .uddd675e116d983bde5b021887ac97549 .ctaText { font-weight:bold; color:#E74C3C; text-decoration:none; font-size: 16px; } .uddd675e116d983bde5b021887ac97549 .postTitle { color:#000000; text-decoration: underline!important; font-size: 16px; } .uddd675e116d983bde5b021887ac97549:hover .postTitle { text-decoration: underline!important; } <\/style><div style=\"padding-left:1em; padding-right:1em;\"><span class=\"ctaText\">Read Also<\/span>&nbsp; <span class=\"postTitle\">How understanding Chinese history can help your business in China<\/span><\/div><\/a><\/div>\n<h4>Southern tours also have a long history in China going back to earlier dynasties. Can you tell us a little more about that?<\/h4>\n<p>The Chinese term <em>nanxun<\/em>, which later came to be applied to Deng\u2019s 1984 and 1992 journeys south, traditionally applied to the tours of inspection and pilgrimage that go all the way back to the emperors of Chinese legend. The most well-known of these today are the Qing dynasty tours of Kangxi and Qianlong \u2013 partly because both had magnificent scroll-paintings produced, recording and mythologising them. Perhaps surprisingly, Mao resurrected this tradition, particularly in his journeying before the Cultural Revolution, and in the Southern Tour that preceded Lin Biao\u2019s death in the early 1970s, using his journeys away from the capital to rally support.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-14234\" src=\"https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Chatwin-cover.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"828\" height=\"632\" srcset=\"https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Chatwin-cover.jpg 828w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Chatwin-cover-300x229.jpg 300w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Chatwin-cover-768x586.jpg 768w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Chatwin-cover-585x447.jpg 585w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 828px) 100vw, 828px\" \/><\/p>\n<h4>How instrumental was the southern tour in the opening up and development of Shanghai? People often forget Shanghai was really the last big Chinese city to be allowed to reform and grow.<\/h4>\n<p>The idea of opening Shanghai to foreign investment and liberalising the economy there was worrisome for the leadership in the 1980s, particularly the most powerful conservative (and one of the \u2018eight elders\u2019 of the party), Chen Yun, who came from that area. Shanghai, like a number of other coastal and river towns in China, had been a \u2018treaty port\u2019 in the 19th century and, therefore, a symbol of foreign exploitation. Shanghai was also something of a cash cow for the communists, so they didn\u2019t want to risk that. Deng had been there in 1990 and 1991 and talked with Zhu Rongji, who was mayor and later would run China\u2019s national economic policy, about more ambitiously developing the area of Pudong, to the east of the Huangpu River, which at that time was still relatively undeveloped \u2013 mainly warehouses, factories and small conurbations. He hadn\u2019t succeeded. However, post-1992, Pudong would begin to develop more quickly, eventually becoming the iconic cluster of skyscrapers we know today. In many ways, Pudong is the most visible legacy of Deng\u2019s southern tour.<\/p>\n<h4>How do you see Deng\u2019s legacy in China today?<\/h4>\n<p>Those who lived through that era are often nostalgic \u2013 not just for the increase in living standards, but for the swirl of political debate that went on during the 1980s and to which Tiananmen put a stop. To understand Deng, you need to understand that everything he did was designed to keep the party in power. He was also profoundly influenced by the Cultural Revolution, during which he was purged twice, and avoiding returning to the \u2018backwardness and poverty\u2019 of that era was key in his ambitions. However, his relentless pursuit of growth at all costs, predicated on cheap labour, debt-fuelled housing and infrastructure, and a wilful ignorance of environmental impact, created a model of growth that was flawed and, as the current leadership has discovered, unsustainable.<\/p>\n<div style=\"clear:both; margin-top:2em; margin-bottom:2em;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/how-to-connect-with-chinese-consumers-in-the-era-of-emotional-marketing\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"dofollow\" class=\"u07428e9c72b96a484ec5b8fad5f785af\"><style> .u07428e9c72b96a484ec5b8fad5f785af { padding:0px; margin: 0; padding-top:1em!important; padding-bottom:1em!important; width:100%; display: block; font-weight:bold; background-color:#eaeaea; border:0!important; border-left:4px solid #E74C3C!important; box-shadow: 0 1px 2px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.17); -moz-box-shadow: 0 1px 2px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.17); -o-box-shadow: 0 1px 2px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.17); -webkit-box-shadow: 0 1px 2px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.17); text-decoration:none; } .u07428e9c72b96a484ec5b8fad5f785af:active, .u07428e9c72b96a484ec5b8fad5f785af:hover { opacity: 1; transition: opacity 250ms; webkit-transition: opacity 250ms; text-decoration:none; } .u07428e9c72b96a484ec5b8fad5f785af { transition: background-color 250ms; webkit-transition: background-color 250ms; opacity: 1; transition: opacity 250ms; webkit-transition: opacity 250ms; } .u07428e9c72b96a484ec5b8fad5f785af .ctaText { font-weight:bold; color:#E74C3C; text-decoration:none; font-size: 16px; } .u07428e9c72b96a484ec5b8fad5f785af .postTitle { color:#000000; text-decoration: underline!important; font-size: 16px; } .u07428e9c72b96a484ec5b8fad5f785af:hover .postTitle { text-decoration: underline!important; } <\/style><div style=\"padding-left:1em; padding-right:1em;\"><span class=\"ctaText\">Read Also<\/span>&nbsp; <span class=\"postTitle\">How to connect with Chinese consumers in the era of emotional marketing<\/span><\/div><\/a><\/div>\n<h4>Perhaps more importantly, how do you think the Party sees Deng\u2019s legacy today \u2013 in particular, Xi Jinping?<\/h4>\n<p>When he came to power, Xi went to Shenzhen \u2013 and returned in 2018 and 2020 \u2013 in obvious and knowing homage to Deng. So a lot of people, both within and outside China, thought, here\u2019s the guy to reinvigorate reform and opening after the lost decade of Hu Jintao. It obviously hasn\u2019t worked out that way, and Deng is infrequently referenced by Xi.<\/p>\n<p>Deng is problematic for a few reasons. Firstly, he deployed power as a party elder with no official role \u2013 not something Xi wants to endorse. Secondly, if the party is eternally right, why did Deng need to fix the economic mess Mao had created, and why did he lose not one but two General Secretaries in the late 1980s \u2013 Hu Yaobang in 1987 and Zhao Ziyang in 1989? Finally, he was popular, and Xi is fundamentally worried about anyone who might invite negative comparisons.<\/p>\n<h4>To my mind, there are very few, if any, public monuments or tributes to Deng on display across China. Do you think this is deliberate? Is his legacy downplayed at a time of reduced emphasis on reform?<\/h4>\n<p>There is that famous statue of him, which is on the cover of the book, at the top of Lotus Hill in Shenzhen, and the billboard which still stretches across a street corner there with his face superimposed on the skyline. The statue was warehoused for a number of years before its unveiling, so even in the 1990s his legacy was somewhat complicated. It seems amazing to me, in particular, that there is no memorial to him in Pudong.<\/p>\n<p>He was always a relatively modest man, however, and disliked the cult of personality approach of Mao \u2013 which makes his adoption of Maoist techniques in 1992, and the subsequent mythologisation of the Southern Tour through the 1990s and early 2000s all the more interesting.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"\/lp-cta-membership1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-7248 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-membership1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"4680\" height=\"786\" srcset=\"https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-membership1.png 4680w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-membership1-300x50.png 300w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-membership1-1024x172.png 1024w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-membership1-768x129.png 768w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-membership1-1536x258.png 1536w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-membership1-2048x344.png 2048w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-membership1-1920x322.png 1920w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-membership1-1170x197.png 1170w, https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/lp-membership1-585x98.png 585w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 4680px) 100vw, 4680px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On a freezing January afternoon in 1992, Deng Xiaoping, China\u2019s former paramount leader and now a revered elder statesman, set off on a month-long trip around China\u2019s south in defence of the reforms he had set in motion to open up China\u2019s economy and transform the country into the political and economic powerhouse we know today. In The Southern Tour: Deng Xiaoping and the Fight for China\u2019s Future (Bloomsbury Asian&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":14236,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[204],"tags":[366,2132],"class_list":["post-14233","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-culture","tag-books","tag-interview"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Author Jonathan Chatwin on Deng Xiaoping&#039;s legendary Southern Tour - Focus - China Britain Business Council<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Jonathan Chatwin&#039;s new book on Deng Xiaoping&#039;s southern tour charts China&#039;s transformation into a 21st-century superpower\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/focus.cbbc.org\/jonathan-chatwin-deng-xiaoping-southern-tour\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_GB\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Author Jonathan Chatwin on Deng Xiaoping&#039;s legendary Southern Tour - 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